Monday, July 06, 2009

the high minded social network discussions


CT wonders how it is that rats know when it is time to leave the sinking ship?

Beth Ranson Conrad
BRC
Hanging out down in the bilge, they get an early warning when the water starts to rise. Which applies to rats both literal and figurative.
Christopher Tweel
CT
but if the ship is sinking can we really make the rats out to be bad guys? And if they aren't bad literally are they bad figuratively? Maybe we as a society need rats to be our early warning system.
Beth Ranson Conrad
If rats are bad guys, it's usually for some reason other than making the ship sink - it's the disease-carrying and thieving they are more guilty of. Ship sinking is usually more due to icebergs/sleeping watchmen. Or pirates.
Christopher Tweel
CT
yes, but their merit as early warning systems for the sinking of the ship --- shouldn't that allow them some measure of forgiveness for all the desieasery and theivery?
Beth Ranson Conrad
it's only an "early warning" for the rest of us if they tell someone they are leaving.
Shad Wachter
SW
Ship sinking could also be caused from rice. Think about it. You put a ton of rice in the hull of a ship and it gets wet, expands, and then cracks the ship's frame. Very dangerous cargo to transport in the days of wooden ships. Of course, if they had rats to eat the rice, no problem, well, except for lack of merchandise.
Elizabeth Hoffman
EH
Y'all need to pick of a copy of William Hope Hodgson's "The Albatross"
Christopher Tweel
CT
See there is ANOTHER thing that rats are good for. eating the rice that might other wise expand and sink the ship.
But... then of course we would have to discuss the quantum effect that rats saving and abandoning said ship. And the overall moral effect that eating/stealing/saving/abandoning the ship might have on both the crew and the rat populace.
Christopher Tweel
CT
Plus, Hodgson falls into the same social trap as do we all. The rats in his story are "imprisoning" the woman and need to be battled. But isn't that an assumption on the part of the woman? Maybe the rats are filling in the cracks and her weeks worth of supplies would be worthless if the boat sank prematurely. Just as we all assume we know the identity of the figurative rats in society and how to best deal with them
Elizabeth Hoffman
EH
Okay, okay. Go read "The mystery of the Derelict" then or go get the exciting part in my note.
Beth Ranson Conrad
Or you could watch the bonus feature on the Ratatouille DVD that talks about the historical relationship between rats and humans and draw your own conclusions.
Christopher Tweel
CTl
HA HA. I love the juxtaposition: Mystery of the Derelict, or Ratatouille bonus features. Surely we dwell in the information age.

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